I can hardly wait to share this news item with my third-grade students in the Middle East. We have such trouble here at school (and with my own daughter at home) trying to teach children that they should learn to be responsible for taking care of themselves!
In an interview with the the Associated Press, Michelle Obama explained that their two girls (Sasha, 7; and Malia, 10) will be expected to make their own beds, and pick up after themselves. The girls have also been promised a dog when they move into the White House, and President Elect Obama told Barbara Walters that they will be expected to “scoop the poop” off the White House lawn.
My Middle Eastern students are just going to find this unbelieveable. Our students (some classes more than others) regularly drop trash all over the classroom floor around their desks (kleenexes, pencil shavings, papers).
With the classes having this habitual problem, we as teachers ask them to clean it up before they can go out to lunch, or home at the end of the day. Some students get busy while others refuse to participate, and attempt to push their trash under other people’s desks, claming “It’s not my trash!” Or they walk around the room as others are cleaning up, but don’t touch a single piece of trash themselves. They comment loudly, “I’m not the maid!”
Unfortuanately, we are fighting this attitude coming from the whole society. We have the same problem at lunch time. At our school, students eat packed lunches out on the playground (schools in our country do not have indoor lunch rooms). Even though there are plenty of trash cans, every few meters, many students cannot be bothered to throw away their own trash. So for those of us who are on lunch duty, about fifty percent of our job is that we are supposed to be catching all the students who are not throwing away their own trash, and to be forcing them to do it. Since we can’t watch every student every second, we end up having a lot of students talking back, saying, “It’s not MY trash!” To which we must then ask them, “Even if it’s not your trash, would you please pick it up and put it in the trash can.”
I believe the problem stems from the fact that by picking up their own trash (or doing any “chores”), they “lose face” in Middle Eastern society. I’ve found that in every society status is important, but that the way of getting status varies. In America, one way we gain status is by working harder and working longer hours. Note that in America, heads of companies often arrive first in the morning, leave last, and work harder than anyone else. In the Middle East, it’s the opposite. It seems to be all about NOT working, or about how you can get OTHERS to do your work for you. This is how you gain status. To be seen working (especially any manual labor tasks, even for yourself) is seen to be debasing yourself, and people will laugh at you.
I have tried to raise my own daughter in our own home to pick up her clothes in her room. She continually asks me, “Why do I have to pick up my clothes, when all my friends have their MAIDS pick up their clothes? I am not the maid! Why are you treating me like a maid?” And it’s true, that IS what happens even in lower-middle class homes, which also attempt to have a young girl type of maid.
In my own home, my husband brings a gardener to do our whole property about once a month. After about two weeks, the lawn and shrubs start to look bad, and after a month they look like a disaster. Sometimes I get really fed up with this and go out to do some work myself (such as trimming shrubs, or sweeping the front walk). Instead of THANKING me, my Middle Eastern husband wants to die of embarrassment in front of the neighbors, who he feels will be LAUGHING at him, and saying “Can’t he even pay someone to do that??” This is the same reason he doesn’t lift a finger himself. When the gardeners do come, he either stands there, or sits in a chair telling them what to do (as does every other man here)!
An extreme example of this same attitude was confirmed by a boy I know who came from Saudi Arabia. I had read on the blog American Bedu (written by a former American diplomat, now living in Saudi Arabia, and married to a Saudi) that many people there blow their noses on kleenexes, and then drop them on the floor, wherever they are, for the maid or servant to pick up! I asked the boy I know if this were true, and he confirmed to me that it was. You can see American Bedu’s post on Issues with Tissues here.
My Middle Eastern country is not nearly as bad as Saudi Arabia with these sorts of attitudes. But middle and upper-class women here are not used to being able to take care of a household without servants (and would see themselves as demeaned even if they tried to do so, except during times when they are unable to find a maid for some reason, in which case they are greatly pitied). This is one of the main reasons why I have seen families move from this country to America only to return two years later–the women just can’t take living in America and having to take care of their houses and children themselves, as well as drive their children everywhere themselves. Most women from the upper middle classes and higher have at least two maids, a gardener, a chauffer, and perhaps a private guardian as well.
So, when I get back to school on Monday (as we are off for the Thanksgiving holiday), and tell my third-graders about the president’s daughters having to “scoop poop” off the lawn and make their own beds, I can imagine it might turn into a two-hour discussion! It might end up making a good essay topic, as well.
Comments, please!
Eileen


November 27, 2008 at 12:25 pm
This is really interesting. I had a friend who was teaching in Kuwait awhile ago and she mentioned similar problems. I’d love to hear about how that discussion goes!
I didn’t know you got the Thanksgiving holiday off– do you work at an American-run school? Will you be celebrating the day with other Americans?
November 27, 2008 at 1:41 pm
Thanks, Kate, I’m glad you found this interesting! Yes, I teach at an American School. I’ll definitely come back here to follow up on what the students thought about Obama’s children having to chores.
Sometimes I celebrate with other Americans, but in the past several years I’ve celebrated with either British friends, or some friends from my Middle Eastern country, introducing them to what Americans do on Thanksgiving. They all enjoyed it.
Eileen
November 29, 2008 at 11:05 am
Absolutely, please share how the discussion goes. I really enjoyed your post. I love learning about different cultures and like knowing how other people tick. I have several middle eastern students, but I haven’t had problems with this attitude; however, I will make a mental note of it so that I can understand some of my students more in the future.
Thanks for sharing!
November 29, 2008 at 1:00 pm
Sunny, I don’t know where you live, but if you live in the United States, or a Western country, it doesn’t mean your students will have the same attitude. In my experience, a lot of people from different countries move to America, and a lot of them find they can’t take our way of life (such as surviving wihout maids and chauffers). I have found a number of people (with such ideas) who moved to America, only to move back for that exact reason. Those who stay, most likely have ways of life and attitudes more closely matching the new country they are in (which is what enables them to stay).
It’s the same thing with Americans moving here. Many of them just cannot take the lower living standards (little creature comfort and great difficulty getting anything done with the various places around town) and way of life here. Either they are able to adjust in a couple of years, or they find they just have to leave.
Eileen
November 30, 2008 at 1:45 pm
Here in Texas I find a lot of students who think it’s okay to leave trash on the floor when it’s time to go. They act like it’s a real chore to pick up before leaving. It’s also amazing how much trash is shoved in the desks. An essay sounds like a good idea.
December 1, 2008 at 4:33 pm
Eileen: An interesting subject. Spaniards are the same way or they used to be and are getting less so. Probably that attitude toward work is simply typical of the privileged few of a poor country. And then, having seen how those act, the poor people monkey them as soon as they have the chance. This creates almost two kinds of humans: the served and the servers.
Here I often marvelled at how different they were. Of course the rich were trained to be leaders and the poor to be led. I used to live with the very rich and could never get used to ordering people, sometimes old people, around. My rich friends did it with real talent. I treated the old maid politely, even deferentially, as if she were the neighbor-lady back home; and I was told not to do that, not to become “chummy” with the “help”. And unable to change my ways, I went on being chummy and had to pay the consequences when the maid lost respect for me. She seemed to actually NEED orders to obey—that was her upbringing.
Even now to most Spaniards I’m sure the news of Obama’s girls’ doing housework and cleaning up after the dogs sounds disagreeable, wrong. Even to me it surprises by now, though I know Americans are proud of that kind of “equality”. I do hope Obama himself doesn’t announce that he will begin cleaning the bathroom. SOMEONE has to drive the rattling train.
December 2, 2008 at 1:33 pm
Our class discussion didn’t go entirely as I had envisioned. My third-graders began raising their hands and telling me about all the work they “helped out” with in their own homes. My conclusion is that several months into the school year, the good relationship we’ve developed together between teacher and students really shows. I think they were saying these things less because most of them really do them, than to try to please me! That’s the nice thing about third-graders–they’re still excited about pleasing their teacher!
Eileen
December 2, 2008 at 7:16 pm
I’m thinking America being a country built mostly by pioneers explains a lot of the difference in attitude. Could you imagine how many settlers we’d have had if no one would bother picking up their tissues, let alone building log cabins from scratch? LOL.
I hear the Obama girls will also attend Sidwell Friends like Chelsea Clinton did. Because Obama believes in quality public education! :]
December 7, 2008 at 9:03 pm
Unfortunately, in terms of attitudes, India is closer to the Middle-East (but not as bad) than to America. But thankfully, things are slowly changing here.